Peter Lindemann has discovered an important connection between the
mysterious power conversion tube patented and used by Ed Gray with his high
voltage pulse motors and Teslas use of unidirectional pulses to produce a wide
range of phenomena as detailed in his new book and video which are available
on his website.
Additionally, Peter has posted many historical files about Gray, Tesla
and other correlations to get the ball moving to try to rediscover and
duplicate the phenomena demonstrated by Ed Gray.
Peter will be lecturing on this subject in his 'World of Free Energy'
presentation at the KeelyNet Convergence conference on June 16/17, 2001 in
Dallas as posted at http://www.keelynet.com/knconf.htm.
Conference registration is still open for online purchase, through the
mail or directly at the door on Saturday morning. Two of the original Ed Gray
motors will also be shown and another version developed by Doug Konzen will be
The following series of email exchanges are from the KeelyNet Interact discussion
list as so very kindly shared by John Bedini and Robert Calloway. John
further ripped the veil of secrecy on the power tube by sending his 1979
experiment photo and lab notes for everyone to study.
Click to see the full screen image
From: Jerry W. Deckerhttp://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet/m10194.html
To: John Bedini
Sent: Friday, June 01,
2001 9:21 PM
Subject: yep, we dragged you into it...
From: Jerry W. Decker
June 02, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: [Keelynet] Re: Lindemann on the World of
Received the following from John Bedini regarding Grays coils, the
power conversion tube and what is going on with the motor;
Jerry - You can drag me into this all you want, The answers have been
given to everybody, every time I posted something with you, AS I SAID BEFORE
THERE IS NO SECRET TO GRAYS MACHINE I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS SO MAGICAL ABOUT A
HIDDEN TUBE THAT GRAY HAD. I have given Peter the lab notes from my files on
gray's tubes when Ron and I went to visit him . Peter came to visit Me he
knows what I can do with My machines. I asked him kindly to not say anything
that I was working on, this was my own request until I'm ready.
Back to gray's tube and motor. I have given peter My lab notes on this
tube He has my permission to do anything he wants with them. Peter has given
you all the answer not only in his book but in your discussion group, but once
again, "WE ARE ALL BLIND".
He has said to you all in the group it's how you capture the
energy!!!!!!!!!!!! What is so hard for you all to understand. It's almost like
we do not speak the same language. Now to the real stuff...
First of all the motors shown on the internet are something different
Gray was working on. """""" THE COILS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE MOTOR I HAVE
SEEN IN THE EARLY DAYS"""""""" what does this say to everybody??????
Can anybody answer Me as to how these tubes work,,, NO BECAUSE YOUR
LOOKING FOR THEM, YOU WON'T FIND THEM, and no one can make them if you do not
understand them. TESLA USED THE SAME TUBES THAT RAN HIS CAR!!!!!!!!!!.
I have also said that the school girl motor gave all the answers to the
problem of free energy. Their is not going to be any kit that somebody can buy
at radio shack, Research into this field takes real hard work. The Swiss
machine uses the same tubes, WHY BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE THE
FORM OF ENERGY TO SOMETHING USEABLE.
Splitting the Positive what does this mean, it means that one lower
form of positive energy is transformed into a higher form, but they are the
same potential energy except useable now to do work "REAL POWER IN WATTS" or
if you would say AMPS times VOLTS.
I have made he statement to you before about the way everybody gets the
FLUE the stuff that makes you sick, you just don't just get it, takes "TIME"
Time is the key factor in pulsed motors(""" GRAY""")....
IT TAKES TIME TO STORE THE CHARGE TO SOME POTENTIAL BEFORE YOU CAN USE
IT FOR DISCHARGE into something. Into something meaning a storage battery or
some load that the meters can measure. Closing the loop YOU CAN'T, free energy
does not work this way, loops are never closed in any machine that's over
THE TWO ENERGIES ARE DIFFERENT because the two POSITIVES ARE DIFFERENT
they are at the same potential but one weak, one collected and strong in
discharge . Stored charge, Time, discharge to something , no closed loop,
these are the keys to free energy , and it's not free you must work to get it.
By the way the motor runs without the tube, just a little stronger with it and
Someone answer how the tubes work and we will have a real discussion on
Gray, and then comes a picture of a pro-type tube taken with a digital camera
that I built some time ago for a different machine. And you can post this..
[Keelynet] Re: Lindemann on the World of Free Energy
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:53:21
Hello Jerry and all, Having spent countless hours studying and building
John Bedini's motors, I think some confusion exists between John's explanation
of what is not being understood and Tom Bearden's explanation of what is going
on in these motors.
This email is not intended to debunk either one of them, only to try
and explain how his design of motor works from my point of view.
If one has never built a pulsed motor you will not realize what is
being overlooked until having done so. S1 has always held the secret in John's
schematics, and I followed right along behind him in my drawings.
If you place a arc gap at S1, a increase in voltage occurs. If you
collect S1 in a capacitor and time it to discharge into ANOTHER battery via a
arc gap (getting it out of the loop) the potential is multiplied.
How much is how long you TIME the wait. What some fail to see is these
motors use sparse milliamps to run compared to the output at S1 if stored in a
capacitor and TIMED to release through the arc gap into a different battery.
THAT'S THE SECRET. John shows this in several of his schematics
everywhere on the web. If you release the stored energy in the capacitor back
to the working or same battery, the excess will "ghost", you will never see
John has got it very correct..STORED CHARGE, TIME, DISCHARGE, NO CLOSED
LOOP. How this happens? I don't know, but it works.
S1 shown at: http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/callow1.htm
Regards, Robert H. Calloway
From: Jerry W. Decker
To: John Bedini
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001
Subject: [Fwd: [Keelynet] Re: Lindemann on the World of Free
Thought you might like to see this which Robert posted to the
From: Jerry W. Decker
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:29:08
John Bedini wrote this about Robert Calloways post, rather flattering
to Robert methinks...he wanted it posted to the list so here it is;
Jerry - This is the best I have seen, Robert has got it so you guys win
the tube and how it works, Robert is right now it's time to understand how you
get the energy, the energy is produced in the back EMF or the spikes only ,
but they are not useable until they are converted by the cap for discharge
into a secondary battery but at the right time.
So here it is EV Gray, He knew this so He had to developed a different
standard A new motor with more inductance in the coils , No re-charge coils
are needed because the power coil supplies all the energy in spikes, You know
the thing every engineer shorts out with diodes because it burns out their
circuits. You can produce free energy any time if simple rules are followed.
Their is no hidden trick here. depending on how much energy is needed
this is all timing to produce the correct voltage level for discharge into the
battery, I have said you can not close the loop so therefore the 1 watt
challenge is out and has no meaning except to confuse everybody and through
you off the track.
Robert is right in saying that you are just ""Ghosting"" to feed back
to the same battery.
If you study the EV Gray tube you will see that the tube uses two
electrodes, a high voltage electrode and a low voltage electrode the low
voltage side is on the primary battery and the high voltage side is on the
3000volt side when a arc is drawn from the timing rotor this completes the
circuit between the two positives, one from the inverter and one from the
battery positive all grounds are connected to the same point. now subtract the
differenceof the twelve volts and you have the real voltage or 2988 volts, but
this is high voltage and can not be used so the conversion takes place in the
tube on the grids.
The ARC is emitted electrons (which) fly off the electrodes and get
stored on the grids this is the cold Electricity Gray talked about and how it
If this is true then an antenna connected to a coil of so many turns is
rectified and stored into a laden jar cap.
The gap on the tube is set to say 1/32, when the discharge takes place
the cold electricity sent out through the grids to the storage battery you are
charging and you do this for free. And you did not close the loop to short it
Gray was too close to providing the world with free energy with just an
antenna of any kind,,,,,, SO THEY KILLED HIM.
So we have the Swiss machine that works the same way, we have Grays
Machine , and we have the car that Tesla built that works the same way. They
all use the same tube just different variations.
You can make this anyway you want to experiment with, I used this as a
medical machine with light currents for treatment with one electrode.
Good going Robert, Have fun. - John
Try this experiment, take three flashlight batteries put two on one
side in series and one on the other side connect the two negatives together,
now between the two + poles connect a light, this is splitting the
positives.This has been on my pages forever, but nobody unerstood it.
Jerry please post this for the group.
Subject: Re: [Keelynet] Re: Lindemann on the World of Free
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:51:16 -0700
To: Jerry W.
Jerry - You do what you want with the picture, this tube is very hard
to make requires milling machine to do and no it's not My version It's grays
tube this is what was hidden inside of the Swiss machine and what Tesla used
also Gray I will send you the lab notes, but I'm sure Peter will give them to
Robert is the one, He did real good in the answer. post the tube if you
want these tubes are about 3" in diameter grid spacing is 1/4 " between grids
5" long 1/4 inch brass rods with silver gaps.
John Bedinis website -
many of his experiments
Peter Lindemanns website - Ed
Gray and free energy info
Doug Konzens website
- Konzen pulse motor details